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Exploring the music industry
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April 05, 2017 05:59 PM PDT

In this episode we rapped about plagiarism versus Influence, copyright, copyleft , originality in the eyes of the supreme court, intellectual property, contracts, shady booking agents and venue owners, integration clauses and setting standards for musicians.

Quotes from the show

On the topic of plagiarism - “ On the copyright law there has to be some originality to what you create in order for it to be subject to protection.”

“ The Supreme Court has given the definition of “original” very broad broad implications.”

“Copyright applies to the phone book the same was it would apply to the lyrics of a song.”

“Good Musicians borrow, great musicians steal.” This quote has been believed to be derived by Miles Davis, T.S Elliot, Pablo Picaso and Stravinsky

And my favorite quote of the show. This was Jerrod’s reply to a question about musicians having to pay to play. “ Pay to Play - Ouch!”

Notes and what I learned on this amazing episode.

-Copyright act was established in 1976
-Copyright clause is part of the constitution
-Copyleft - when you create something you want to share for the simplicity of having your music or art be seen or heard.
-My thoughts on copy left were for original bands trying to get their music out to the masses and was not geared towards songs created for the intention of commercial monetization such as synchronized licensing.
-You can measure show outcomes but the inconsistency between venues makes this task much more difficult than a normal business because of all the variables that take place.
-A simple text message serves as a contract
-Artist can be held responsible for ditching a gig, if the contracted was breached the owner can sue for consequential damages
-Contracts fail to properly discuss expectations - how do we bridge the gap and fix this problem ?
-Integration clause - is a clause in a written contract that declares that contract to be the complete and final agreement between the parties.
-Setting standards for musicians


Ari’s Take 

How to Make it in the New Music Business by Ari Herstand
Florida Department of Business & Professional Regulations - http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/
They oversee Talent Buyers

Jerrod Simpson - http://jerrodsimpson.com
Between Bluffs - http://www.betweenbluffs.com
Oak Hay - https://www.facebook.com/oakhay/

March 16, 2017 12:23 PM PDT

In our first educational moment we discuss how to not overwhelm the talent buyer, appropriate amount of time before replying, reading the band submission page before hand, knowing what to include in your email, getting used to being rejected, tracking your data, reviewing your content before hitting send and realizing that their are different courses for different horses.

Tip Jar

March 09, 2017 07:50 AM PST

We rapped about life on the road from PA to FL, we also conversed about unplugging & detaching from the social cycle, out to lunch with the industry, headspace and hotel rooms, learning from your competition, opening up to new ideas, Jacob & The Good People, It's a sonic thing - one man bands, The Mudd Shark Story at Edgewater Hotel and the best small music town on the east coast Columbia, S.C

Links - Jamie Salvatore http://www.jamiesalvatore.com
The Mudshark incident - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_episode
One Man Band - Ben Prestage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxNOMJT5MJk

Quotes - "It's a sonic thing." in regards to original bands versus solo projects.

On meditation and clearing the head.
"Put myself in a headspace, where I don't allow anything in. I look at it like closing doors, like in a hotel room. Where you can kind of walk by all the problems you store in the hotel room and not allowing them in."

"Find out one thing from your competition."

" If you want to grow you have to make time."

"Is Nirvana and Nirvana unplugged the same thing?"

February 09, 2017 06:48 AM PST

We rapped about Community Radio, Musicians Wanted, The Mix Tape Series, Working on the News, Getting your Start in Radio and The Godless Petition by Lorenzo Milam.

Musicians Wanted - http://www.wmnf.org/events/musicians-wanted/

Quotes from the Show
RJ: “Everyone can come together on music”
RJ : In regards to the news “And thats why I love doing my type of show because you get to step outside that.”
RJ’s & Wife about The Mix Tape Series : “I explained it to my wife, Man that’s the most hipster idea I have ever heard in my life.”
Me : In regards to WMNF 88.5 “Tune in so you can get legit news.”

RJ did not want to pay an astronomical about of money to attend Full Sail so he started volunteering at WMNF 88.5 which abled him to learn how to run sound, produce, engineer and host. Lesson learned, if you want it bad enough you will find the resource.

Lorenzo Milam - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Milam
The Godless Petition - petitionhttp://www.ralphmag.org/orderpetition.html
The Mix Tape Series - https://www.facebook.com/The-Mix-Tape-Series-1739406982978710/

January 12, 2017 08:09 AM PST

We rapped about Creating, Pablo Picasso, Pricing ones Art, Digital versus physical CD's and getting Super Nerdy with the Setlist.

Stick Martin - https://stickmartin.com

Here is a video we shot before hand. " Women, Cigarettes and Booze " by Stick Martin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TIS1reXAIQ

December 07, 2016 05:11 PM PST

We rapped about networking, creating, "Heartache Regret and Whiskey," and Hunter S. Thompson. I also challenged Eric Thompson to create 5 songs over the next year. Each song was given a creative stipulation.

Correction : I said Mint 500 when the actual race is the Mint 400.

Eric Thompson


November 11, 2016 09:30 AM PST

We rapped about session players, low frequency information, guerrilla marketing, music & memory and being alive inside.

Links - Whole Hearted Productions - http://www.wholeheartedprod.com
Custom Tracks - https://custom-tracks.com
Alive Inside - http://www.aliveinside.us

Quotes by Dane Myers
" Educating musicians is the second half to making art."

"Streaming is stripping away a lot of the rights of songwriters."

" Knowing the people in your life that you have relations with, write a song that is going to relieve somebody in your life of something that they are going through. Something deeply meaningful."

View point on the cover scene

" I understand that's a challenging environment."

"You feel like your inherently not interesting to people."


To break into the market as a session player you need to be really good, play with a wide variety of players and know the right people. Practice and Networking are the key.

When playing a new venue communicate with the agent and venue owner so you know exactly whats expected of your performance. This simple gesture will clarify up and grey area either party may have.

November 11, 2016 11:13 AM PST

We rapped about the market being oversaturated, zen drums,trains & planes & automobiles, rum and new music. I have a tremendous amount to learn about this podcast game but the experience should be fun. Here is the video we shot beforehand. https://www.youtube.com/embed/vRanMWgDgfw?rel=0

Notes: Harmonium- referred to as a pump organ, reed organ or a melodeon is a type of free-reed organ that generates sound as air flows past a vibrating piece of thin metal in a frame. The piece of metal is called a reed.

Topics to discuss? Is there too much going on at a typical bar gig? If a venue is showcasing music and they have t.v's, sporting events, video games will the music be lost in translation?

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